[net-perf] Re: RSVP Request: CENIC piPEs workshop

Michael Van Norman mvn at ucla.edu
Tue May 31 11:11:27 PDT 2005


Also, a draft agenda is at
http://e2epi.internet2.edu/network-perf-wk/cenic/agenda.html

Send commentary to Russ.

/Mike


On 5/31/05 8:02 AM, "Michael Van Norman" <mvn at ucla.edu> wrote:

> Here is the list so far.  I need to know of anybody else ASAP to start
> getting food and parking arranged.
> 
> 
> Mark Boolootian (UCSC) (parking needed, vegetarian meal)
> Carl Hayter (USC) (parking needed)
> Mike Hunter (UCB)
> Tom Hutton (UCSD)
> Mike Iglesias (UCI) (parking needed)
> Kevin Kawaguchi (UCD)
> ken lindahl (UCB) (parking needed)
> Erik McCroskey (UCR)
> Tim Paul (UCR)
> Michael Sinatra (UCB)
> David Visick (UCSD) (parking needed)
> Jim Warner (UCSC)
> David Wong (UCD)
> Sunia Yang (Stanford)
> 
> Anybody from Caltech, CENIC, UCSB, or UCSF?
> 
> /Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/24/05 10:52 AM, "Michael Van Norman" <mvn at ucla.edu> wrote:
> 
>> I need to start finalizing the attendee count for next month's workshop, so
>> it is now time to officially RSVP.  Please let me know by Friday if you
>> intend to attend and whether or not you will need parking.  Also let me know
>> if you have any special dietary, or other, needs.
>> 
>> We will review the agenda and requirements for the meeting at the HPR-TAC
>> meeting on Thursday.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> /Mike
>> 
>> On 5/3/05 3:11 PM, "Michael Van Norman" <mvn at ucla.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> The workshop will be Wednesday and Thursday (June 29 and 30) at UCLA, so
>>> book your calendars.  I'll leave it to Russ to send out the agenda
>>> specifics.  The "Visitors" link of the UCLA Homepage (www.ucla.edu) will
>>> lead you to area hotels.
>>> 
>>> /Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/22/05 1:13 PM, "Michael Van Norman" <mvn at ucla.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> To update everybody on progress.  ken and I have been working with Russ
>>>> Hobby to host an E2Epi Network Performance Workshop
>>>> (http://e2epi.internet2.edu/network-perf-wk/index.html) at UCLA the week
>>>> of June 27.  The exact dates are still being worked out.  The agenda
>>>> will probably vary from what is on the web site as they are still
>>>> working on the format, but it will be two days in length.  It looks like
>>>> we will be getting space to handle two people from each HPR connector +
>>>> CENIC (so you can start fighting amongst yourselves now :).  Even though
>>>> the dates are not yet set, I wanted to get this out so you can start
>>>> planning your schedules and working on getting the requirements for
>>>> participation 
>>>> (http://e2epi.internet2.edu/network-perf-wk/requirements.html) into place.
>>>> 
>>>> I should have all the details by the next HPR-TAC meeting.  My
>>>> expectation is that this workshop will kick-off a full piPEs
>>>> infrastructure for CalREN.
>>>> 
>>>> On a related front, Mark and I have been working with the NLANR folks on
>>>> the campus network version of their AMP monitors.  I expect that we will
>>>> get copies of the code real soon now.  I hope to have something to
>>>> present on this effort at the next meeting as well.
>>>> 
>>>> /Mike
>>>> 
>>>> Mark Boolootian wrote:
>>>>> Hi Garrett,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What is the status of deploying Pipes in CENIC? Do we have all campuses
>>>>>> on board with doing this? Is there a timeline for deployment? Who is
>>>>>> the CENIC expert in this area? How much progress has been made so far?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike Van Norman and myself are supposed to be leading the effort to
>>>>> promote deployment of performance measurement tools within CENIC.  But,
>>>>> sigh, work keeps getting in the way of accomplishing anything useful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is a mailing list associated with this effort:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   http://lists.cenic.org/mailman/listinfo/network-performance
>>>>> 
>>>>> but no activity.  I believe Mike was going to draft an email that
>>>>> articulated
>>>>> recommendations for campus baseline configurations.  At a minimum, that
>>>>> would
>>>>> include OWAMP and BWCTL.  Running an AMP probe, multicast beacon, and NDT
>>>>> server would be extremeley valuable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The CENIC expert would have to be Russ.  Russ has attempted to get
>>>>> the ball rolling on more than one occasion, but so far there isn't
>>>>> anything to report in the way of progress.  UCSC is planning on
>>>>> OWAMP/BWCTL
>>>>> deployment (by summer I hope) and I'm fairly certain both UCLA and
>>>>> Berkeley
>>>>> plan on deploying said servers as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think I can safely say that OWAMP/BWCTL are the mechanisms of choice
>>>>> for performance measurement within CENIC, and that's the direction that
>>>>> most campuses are headed (albeit slowly).  The real trick is overcoming
>>>>> the current inertial state.  Please join the mailing list above and
>>>>> complain
>>>>> about the slack leadership :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> mb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> HPR-TAC mailing list
>>>>> HPR-TAC at lists.cenic.org
>>>>> http://lists.cenic.org/mailman/listinfo/hpr-tac
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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